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Carolyn Jackson: Full Circle
As career trajectories go, the move from swaps trader to derivatives lawyer isn't so unusual these days. Many young dealers are law school grads who spend some time on the swaps desk, graduate to structured products and then move over to one of Wall Street's big corporate law firms to rack up some serious billable hours.
Carolyn Jackson's progression from trader to lawyer has been anything but typical. She was a founding mother of Chase's swaps team, becoming its first hire in 1982. After rising to head of U.S. dollar derivatives trading, she moved in 1987 to BNP Capital Markets, where she set up its New York office and managed U.S. dollar derivatives sales and trading. Next, she moved to Banque Indosuez in 1993, where she served as first vice president in charge of the firm's derivatives products group and its New York trading desk. Then, she moved on to the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, where from 1995 to 1997, she served as executive director and board member, the first person to hold both titles at once.
Having reached what could arguably be called the pinnacle of the derivatives world, Jackson's next move was a bit, well, unusual: she quit ISDA, became a personal trainer and aerobics instructor, and set out to write a novel drawing on her experience at the beginning of the derivatives revolution.
In short order, she went from spending her days governing the global derivatives world to what's known in the exercise business as "white shirt duty”: picking up discarded towels and other items from the floor of a Reebok health club, for the princely sum of $8.50 an hour. "That was slightly less than what I made as a derivatives trader,” she says. Gradually, she moved up to "fitness screening”—taking an inventory of an exercise client's physical health—and, eventually, became a full-fledged physical trainer. She also taught step, body sculpting and high-impact aerobics at several New York fitness clubs. (We'd explain the difference if we could.)
Jackson's literary achievements weren't so numerous. Early on, she found that writing a novel about the derivatives world can be tough going. "People thought it would be a tell-all book that would trash everybody,” she says. "That kind of stifled me. Not what I would want to do.” Her novel, which was to tell the story of a rogue treasurer who brings a money-center bank to the brink of insolvency, never got off the ground.
| She went from spending her days governing the global derivatives world to picking up discarded towels and other items from the floor of a Reebok health club. |
What to do when the realization sets in that your novel isn't going anywhere? Why, go to law school, of course. "I always wanted to go to law school because I knew it would give me better training to be a writer than a master's degree from a writing school,” she says. "I also had gotten interested in commodity regulation from my time at ISDA. So I took the LSAT, and the next thing I knew, I was at Fordham Law.”
After graduating, Jackson landed a job as an associate in the London offices of Allen & Overy, one of the top derivatives practices in the world. Now, she finds herself working on a variety of derivatives-related projects—everything from helping non-U.S. companies operate Internet derivatives exchanges to advising newly merged clients on their combined derivatives exposures. "I'm not picking up towels anymore,” she says.
The sheer variety of her new job is invigorating. "When I left the derivatives business, individuals had become much more specialized than in the early days,” she says. "When we first started, we marketed the customer, executed the trade and did the documentation, and we saw a broad range of products. Now, most people are highly specialized. I had been a part of the exponential development of the swap market in the early 1980s, but as a manager, all I was being asked to do was submit reports. Law attracted me because it offers such a broad range. And many of the more interesting issues in derivatives are the legal issues.”
Is she happy being a relative grunt again? "I wouldn't have been happy doing it the other way around—being a lawyer and then going to the business side,” she says. "My well-being is off the charts.” — Robert Hunter
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